Change The World, Start Small

Start with a made bed and end with a braver life. We thread together military grit, spiritual conviction, and real-world choices to show how small daily wins compound into courage, clarity, and service. From facing “sharks” in frigid waters to a chorus that rises from the mud, we explore how one person’s hope can lift a whole crowd and how heart, not pedigree, sets the pace for meaningful change.

We get honest about failure—Michael Jordan’s misses, our own stumbles—and why getting up matters more than keeping score. Then we wade into a thoughtful debate: awards, platforms, and the tensions Christian artists face. Should you refuse a trophy if the work is “for Jesus”? Can you accept income from ministry? We turn to 1 Corinthians 9 for a grounded answer on provision, motive, and stewardship, pushing past online spats to the substance: humility, generosity, and quiet obedience that doesn’t need the spotlight.

The call is simple and demanding: put faith on your feet. Feed the hungry, visit the prisoner, choose courage over comfort, and sing hope into dark nights. Read Scripture for yourself, seek a Bible-teaching pastor, and let conviction guide your choices—even when it costs you applause. Names and trophies fade, but love for the least endures. If you’re ready to trade performance for purpose and distraction for devotion, press play, share with a friend, and leave a review to help others find this conversation. Then go do one small faithful thing today.

Chapters

• 1:09 Opening Blessing And Setup
• 1:33 Make Your Bed: Small Wins
• 2:23 Face The Sharks: Courage
• 3:17 Heart Over Flippers: True Measure
• 4:34 Hell Week And The Power Of Hope
• 7:28 Failure, Resilience, And Faith
• 8:24 Grace Misused And Life’s Boundaries
• 9:54 Awards, Conviction, And Motives
• 12:10 Provision In Ministry: 1 Corinthians 9
• 13:30 Charity, Secrecy, And Refinement
• 14:59 Do The Least: Faith In Action
• 16:44 Final Exhortation: Read Scripture Yourself

Transcript

SPEAKER_01: 0:57

Hey guys, it's B Rob. It's the Food for Thought Faith Cast, and it is a lovely day, and I hope you're blessed. God is doing miracles, and I just, man, I just want to tell you about it. But first, I want you to listen to these clips, and I'll be back. Love you guys. God bless you guys, and it's a wonderful, gorgeous, beautiful day that God has made.

SPEAKER_03: 1:22

If you want to change the world, start off by making your bed. If you make your bed every morning, you will have accomplished the first task of the day. It will give you a small sense of pride, and it will encourage you to do another task, and another, and another. And by the end of the day, that one task completed will have turned into many tasks completed. Making your bed will also reinforce the fact that the little things in life matter. If you can't do the little things right, you'll never be able to do the big things right. And if by chance you have a miserable day, you will come home to a bed that is made. That you made. And a made bed gives you encouragement that tomorrow will be better. To pass SEAL training, there are a series of long swims that must be completed. One is the night swim. Before the swim, the instructors joyfully brief the students on all the species of sharks that inhabit the waters off San Clementi. They assure you, however, that no student has ever been eaten by a shark. At least not that they can remember. But you are also taught that if a shark begins to circle your position, stand your ground. Do not swim away. Do not act afraid. And if a shark, hungry for a midnight snack, darts towards you, then summons up all your strength and punch him in the snout, and he will turn and swim away. There are a lot of sharks in the world. If you hope to complete the swim, you will have to deal with them. So if you want to change the world, don't back down from the sharks. Over a few weeks of difficult training, my SEAL class, which started with 150 men, was down to just 42. There were now six boat crews of seven men each. I was in the boat with the tall guys, but the best boat crew we had was made up of the little guys, the munchkin crew we called them. No one was over five foot five. The Munchkin boat crew had one American Indian, one African American, one Polish American, one Greek American, one Italian American, and two tough kids from the Midwest. They outpaddled, outran, and outswam all the other boat crews. The Big Men and the other boat crews would always make good-natured fun of the tiny little flippers the munchkins put on their tiny little feet prior to every swim. But somehow these little guys from every corner of the nation and the world always had the last laugh. Swimming faster than everyone and reaching the shore long before the rest of us. SEAL training was a great equalizer. Nothing mattered but your will to succeed, not your color, not your ethnic background, not your education, not your social status. If you want to change the world, measure a person by the size of their heart, not by the size of their flippers. The ninth week of training is referred to as Hell Week. It is six days of no sleep, constant physical and mental harassment, and one special day at the Mud Flats. The Mud Flats are an area between San Diego and Tijuana where the water runs off and creates the Tijuana slugs, a swampy patch of terrain where the mud will engulf you. It is on Wednesday of Hell Week, but you paddle down to the mud flats and spend the next 15 hours trying to survive this freezing cold, the howling wind, and the incessant pressure to quit from the instructors. As the sun began to set that Wednesday evening, my training class, having committed some egregious infraction of the rules, was ordered into the mud. The mud consumed each man till there was nothing visible but our heads. The instructors told us we could leave the mud if only five men would quit. Only five men, just five men, and we could get out of the oppressive cold. Looking around the mud flat, it was apparent that some students were about to give up. It was still over eight hours till the sun came up. Eight more hours of bone-chilling cold. The chattering teeth and the shivering moans of the trainees were so loud it was hard to hear anything. And then one voice began to echo through the night. One voice raised in song. The song was terribly out of tune, but sung with great enthusiasm. One voice became two, and two became three, and before long everyone in the class was singing. The instructors threatened us with more time in the mud if we kept up the singing, but the singing persisted. And somehow the mud seemed a little warmer, and the wind a little tamer, and the dawn not so far away. If I have learned anything in my time traveling the world, it is the power of hope. The power of one person. Washington, a Lincoln, King, Mandela, and even a young girl from Pakistan, Malala. One person can change the world by giving people hope. So if you want to change the world, start each day with a task completed. Find someone to help you through life. Respect everyone. Know that life is not fair and that you will fail often. But if you take some risks, step up when the times are the toughest, face down the bullies, lift up the downtrodden, and never ever give up. If you do these things, the next generation and the generations that follow will live in a world far better than the one we have today. And what started here will indeed have changed the world for the better.

SPEAKER_00: 7:17

Michael Jordan said in one of his interviews when they said, You are unbelievably the greatest basketball player of all times. I mean, tell me about that. And he says, Well, you just mentioned the successes. But he says, For me to become the greatest basketball player, I missed more than 9,000 shots in my career.

SPEAKER_02: 7:39

I've lost almost 300 games. Twist times I've been trusted to take the game-winning shot and missed. I've failed over and over and over again in my life.

SPEAKER_00: 7:51

Does it make him a failure? No. We all fail. It's okay. What is not okay is that when you fail, you stay down. Whoever stays down is a loser. And winners will fail and get up. Always get up. That is a winner.

SPEAKER_07: 8:13

Listen, anything you do, never forget God when you get what you prayed for. Don't forget him. On your good days, you still need him. Because the Bible says in Job 1.21, the Lord gave and the Lord has taken away. If you forget to give him credit, he'll remind you because God knows how to humble the ungrateful.

SPEAKER_09: 8:36

God has given you everything that you need to accomplish all that He has called you to accomplish. So if He has called you to be a man, to be a husband, to be a dad, that means that God has equipped you with everything you need to accomplish the things that He has called you to.

SPEAKER_08: 8:50

If I'm forgiven, then why don't I just sin? So if I sin, I could just go kind of use my get out of jail free pass later. This is not a get out of jail free card for you to be able to just kind of ravage the streets and prowl, and then all of a sudden when you need it, you're like, can you can you can you make bail today? Like that's not how salvation works.

SPEAKER_06: 9:09

As Christians, it's hard to know where the line in the sand is between being in the world and not of the world. And as a Christian artist, you know, I dr I dress kind of like the world. I kind of look like the world. My music can kind of sound like the world. So where's the line in the sand drawn? And I'm convicted personally that a line that I can draw is that I will not receive a trophy for something that is from Jesus and for Jesus. And I was wrestling with this last year. I even said that on stage at the Dove Awards. I said, I I'm still struggling with the concept of receiving this award, but all glory to Jesus. Every name will fade away, including mine, except for one name. But I feel a conviction to go even a step further and say, I don't know if I even want to step on the stage. I don't know if I want to step in the room. And so I have decided to take a stance of non-participation. I will not be attending the doves or the Grammys. I hope to be an example to the youth that the trophy is our salvation.

SPEAKER_05: 10:00

Alright, so Forrest Frank, he's saying he's not going to the double wars because he's feeling convicted and he doesn't want to accept an award for something that he feels like Jesus should be getting the recognition for, not him. So he does he doesn't even want to be in the spotlight. He doesn't even want to be in a room. And I feel like that's okay. You know, if you're feeling convicted, then go ahead and follow that conviction. But then we got Jelly Roll in the comments, and he's pretty much saying that, you know, how you gonna not receive a trophy for something from Jesus for Jesus, but you're gonna take profits from it. You know, and really he's saying, like, how you gonna not even come to the war to get the award for it, but you're gonna accept the money from it. And it's funny because, you know, he's selling albums for his frankes. And obviously, when you're selling albums in your music artist, you're gonna make money. So I don't know if the idea here is for him to donate all the money that he's making, but I wanted to actually go back to the word because the Bible is the truth. And in 1 Corinthians chapter 9, verses 7 through 14, Paul and Barnabas are the only two apostles that do not take money from the ministry. And so he's saying, who services a soldier at his own expense? Who plants a vineyard and does not eat his grapes, who tends a flock and does not drink the milk? Do I say this merely on human authority? Doesn't the law say the same thing? For it is written in the law of Moses, do not muzzle an ox while it's dreading out the grain. Is it about oxen that God is concerned? Surely he's saying this for us, isn't he? Yes, this was written for us because whoever plows and threshes shouldn't should be able to do so in the hope of sharing in the harvest. And if we've sown spiritual seed among you, is it too much if we reap a material harvest from you? If others have this right of support from you, shouldn't we have it all the more? But we did not use this right. On the contrary, we put up anything, we put up with anything rather than hinder the gospel of Christ. Don't you know that those who serve in the temple get their food from the temple, and that those who serve at the altar share in what is offered at the altar? In the same way the Lord has commanded that those who preach the gospel should receive their living from the gospel. So Paul is pretty much putting it here right now, and he said, Hey man, it's okay for those disciples, those apostles to accept money from the ministry. Now, it's one thing to, you know, be greedy, you know, to, you know, um be doing it for the pursuit of the money. But, you know, here it's clearly that they're doing it for the gospel, they're doing it for Jesus, and then the reward is the harvest. The reward in this case is the money. Some of them doing it 100% of their time. So, I mean, honestly, we gotta stop fighting over who's doing it right, and we gotta start stop like nitpicking over the little things, you know, like jelly rolls doing, and really just start asking ourselves like, am I actually following Christ in my own life? Because obviously, Forrest Frank, he he's doing it, and if he's feeling convicted, he's feeling convicted.

SPEAKER_06: 12:44

So I wasn't gonna respond to this comment because I didn't want to bring any unnecessary drama. I posted my personal conviction, it triggered a lot of people. I had no idea that that was gonna happen. But now Fox News has brought it up in People magazine, so I feel like I'm inclined to speak on it. All I'm gonna say to you, Jelly, is I love this question. This is the question that kept me from making Christian music for so many years because I didn't want to make a business out of worship music, I didn't want to make a business out of Jesus, and so I actually didn't participate. And then one day I felt like God was telling me to release a call my quiet time song. And I did. And here's the thing legally, it was self-produced and self-written. So legally, that money comes to me. What I do with that money after it legally comes to me, I'm never gonna tell anybody because your left hand isn't supposed to know from your right hand. I might give 90% of my money away, I might give 10% of my money away, somewhere in between. But y'all are never gonna know that because that's that's my relationship with Jesus. But I love this conversation, and I'm willing to be refined in any area. Anyways, I'm just stoked by this comment. This is something that I would love to figure out, and in the meantime, I'm a safe place for you, bro. Whether that's on the phone or on here on social media, I'm for you, bro. God is for you, He has a plan for your life.

SPEAKER_04: 14:08

Y'all forgive me. Um, I'm I'm one, I'm not sure how much I even belong to speaking up here right now, but um just um and I'm nervous. I ain't been this nervous since I went to criminal court, y'all. This is a real thing for me. I'm I mean, I'm sweaty palm, but uh I was listening to him and I was thinking about Matthew when he talks about the least. When he said, uh, when I was hungry, you fed me. When I was thirsty, you gave me water. When I was in jail, you came and visited me. And I realized that I'm standing here because people took time with the least. And I want to I want to give this message as clear as I can right now. The world is hearing about Jesus like they haven't in decades right now. There is a revival happening in the United States of America where you can't go on a corner and not hear about Jesus right now. And while we are hearing about Jesus, I encourage you to put faith on your feet and feed on your faith and walk out of this building and go do for the least. They've heard of Jesus. Now show them Jesus. Go feed the poor, go visit the ones in jail, go show them who Jesus was. And we're done talking. It's time to show. I thank you for the double ward. I think this thing is great. I think it gives alternative programming for kids at home watching this. My son's watching this. I think this is awesome. He gets to watch an award show like this. I thank God that I can see the forest for the trees. God bless y'all.

SPEAKER_01: 15:37

So why are you doing the opposite, Jelly? And then that last line right there, I can see the forest for the trees. Like that wasn't a shot at Forest Frank. I mean, you say all this good stuff, and I hope your heart is well. But we see you living the lavish lifestyle. And I don't see you giving none of that away. And the only time I see you talking about Jesus is when you're on stage in front of thousands and millions of viewers. I just pray your heart's right. No judgment from me because I ain't the judge. And I totally agree about the revival. I totally agree.

SPEAKER_09: 16:33

I would encourage, regardless of what kind of denomination you grew up in or whatever, for those folks listening, just read the Bible for yourself and find a Bible-teaching pastor that teaches it. And just dig in. Right. You know, don't don't don't just assume the traditions that you've been handed down because somebody made those up. And some of them are good, some of them are not good. And so just just see what it says for yourself.