The Food for Thought Faithcast with Be Rob

Ep.28-The Firefighter's Awakening-story of Sean Dugan

Be Rob Season 1 Episode 28

Join us for an eye-opening conversation with Sean Dugan, a firefighter whose heroic actions became a catalyst for personal awakening. In this compelling episode, Sean recalls the moment he faced a burning minivan and rescued a child trapped inside, encapsulating the essence of bravery and community spirit. His journey isn't just about fighting fires; it's about confronting the deeper truths within society and within himself.

Throughout the discussion, Sean shares how he navigated his path from complacency to activism, influenced by both his experiences as a firefighter and a personal quest for truth amidst the chaos of current events. Listeners will hear riveting tales from his career, experience the emotional weight of addiction and recovery, and explore the profound impact of faith in guiding his transformation. This episode invites you to reflect on how we can uplift each other during crises and emphasizes the importance of human connection in every facet of life.

As Sean shares his story, themes of resilience, service, and awakening ring true. His candid revelations will inspire and motivate you to acknowledge your challenges while illustrating the importance of reaching out to one another. The message is clear; unity, faith, and a shared commitment to helping each other can lead us through the most trying times. Let Sean’s incredible story move you, evoke compassion, and perhaps even inspire your journey. Be sure to subscribe, share your thoughts, and engage with us on this path to truth and community!

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Speaker 1:

B-Rob Food for Thought Podcast. I just want to let you guys know I got my man, sean Dugan, on the line and he is a firefighter. Oh, he is, or was?

Speaker 2:

No, I still am. I'm still a firefighter. I got promoted, actually, in, let's just say, a big-name city. This way, I don't represent anything as far as getting in trouble with work. Oh, you did, absolutely, absolutely, yeah, just keep it like that, right.

Speaker 2:

Um, and you know, we linked up, I think, through facebook and through posts and stuff like that, as far as like uh, you know, trying to, you know, you sought out like-minded people, almost like because you, at the time for me, I was questioning my own sanity, like am I the only one seeing this Right?

Speaker 1:

No, I'm the same way. I call it the truth movement, you know, or or the great awakening, because it's, you know, it really is biblical. I mean, it really is. So tell me your story, brother.

Speaker 2:

So my dad, like I just was telling you, my dad has been an original conspiracy dude, for I can tell you this I think it was like 96 Women's World Cup. And we're down to shore, I'm 13. And my dad's talking about as Japan comes out, and they're wearing pink and black. And he's like, why is Japan wearing pink and black? And I'm a kid, I'm like, well, who do you care? Who cares? And he said it's not their colors, it's not the colors of their flag.

Speaker 1:

Right, right right.

Speaker 2:

They're white and red and this is New World Order stuff. As far as getting rid of your flags, the colors of your flags, getting rid of your history, taking down your statues, all that kind of shit, I'm like, oh, sound familiar, you know, like now, but at the time I was a 13-year-old kid, I didn't know, so my dad has always been that dude and you know.

Speaker 1:

I became that dude within the last five years. Well, he put that seed in you, bro. I mean you got that.

Speaker 2:

The seed was definitely there, but I always knew in like dude, it was pretty easy for me to disconnect from a party or a team because I was really never a part of it. I always knew it was nonsense. I'm not a Democrat, I'm not a Republican, I'm pretty much a leave me alone guy.

Speaker 1:

I didn't understand enough and, sadly, when you do that, just because you don't pay attention doesn't mean that it doesn't affect you, and I didn't realize how much it affected our, our lives until you know again up into 2020, where they shut everything down I get it, man, when and when I was in, like when I graduated high school, and everybody went into sororities and fraternities and everything, man, I didn't even really, I didn't even like college, I didn't want to be a part of any of that stuff. I still had friends in those places but it just didn't seem. It was weird to me. It was almost. I used to call it rent-a-friend and I don't. I never understood any of that. That Roman, that that whole thing, like something inside me said no, no, no, no, no, you just go off on your own and do your own thing, b-rob, and you know what I'm saying. I just never was a part of that and I never let my kids be a part of that as well how old are your kids?

Speaker 1:

uh, my son is um. He's the middle one, he's 24. My daughter turned, my youngest turns 21 in June and my oldest is 27. She lives up in Michigan with her boyfriend.

Speaker 2:

And you're down in Georgia, correct? Yeah, yeah, I'm a Georgia boy. Yeah, see, I got a. Yeah, I'm from, I'm a Georgia boy. Yeah, yeah, see, I got a. I got a six year old little girl and a three year old little boy.

Speaker 1:

Awesome, awesome how old are you?

Speaker 2:

I'm 41.

Speaker 1:

You still young. You still young.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, I'm in the thick of it, though, with the young bucks, and parenting is one of the hardest things I've ever done and one of the raddest, and the rad far outweighs the hard. Yep, absolutely, and it's cool, it's a blessing.

Speaker 1:

Yep, it is very much. I did it at a young age. We were kids having kids.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, that's it. See, my thing was, when you're talking about colleges, I didn't question anything then, because drinking and drugging, I mean, it was just that that colleges, I didn't question anything then because drinking and drugging Right, I mean, it was just that, that was the thing.

Speaker 1:

I didn't care about all that other shit.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Yeah, it wasn't like I had any goals in mind. It was kind of I went there because I wanted to play a sport and that's where they told us to go and that's where I ended up and that's when I graduated with a liberal arts degree, and I don't even know what that is I know my wife has one and she's regretted too.

Speaker 1:

Um what sport did you play?

Speaker 2:

I was a soccer kid, played soccer it's a, you know, played everything, but that's the thing I took seriously, loved it. Um, yeah, I did pretty well in high school and then, like you know, even before my first training camp, where I went to Cabrini University Cabrini College at the time, which is now shut down in Bradner, pa, it's you know I was 20 pounds heavier, with a broken hand. You know what I mean Showing up to training camp and drinking, doing all that kind of stuff. And you know my journey also is that I've been sober now, um, you know, 13 and a half years.

Speaker 1:

Awesome, that is awesome bro.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, it was just you know and uh. So how did?

Speaker 1:

you? What were you like? How much were you drinking when you decided to stop?

Speaker 2:

So I grew up in Philly. I'm a Philly kid, and it was, you know, percocet, oxycontin epidemic, drinking a lot and mixing it with that. You don't question what you're doing as abnormal when 90% of the dudes you're running around with are doing the same thing. I get it. Most people walked away from it and I couldn't. You know, uh, that that's the thing. Like there was a time in my life where I could have walked away, but why? And then there came a time where I had to walk away and I couldn't and it just had me in the grips and, uh, from 2005 to 2011, uh, I bounced out of 12-step programs. I bounced in and out, thinking I could just drink, thinking I could smoke a little weed, whatever it was. Just like bad circumstances. Don't hang around these people. At the end of the day, when people suffer from drugs and alcohol, the addiction to that, I honestly just believe it's some kind of a soul sickness.

Speaker 1:

You're absolutely correct. Well, they don't call it spirits for anything, right?

Speaker 2:

Well, it's like I said you pick up your booze, we're out at the wine and spirit store. So when you're dealing with alcohol, you're dealing with the spirits. When you're throwing drugs in the mix now, you're dealing with witchcraft.

Speaker 1:

Well, wine, yeah, wine witchcraft, well wine, yeah, wine. Will you wine? And then spirits?

Speaker 2:

I mean it's wild, bro, it really is, yes it really is, it's um, but that was a journey in itself too. You know, as far as getting there and and there's just too many variables that go in to my story to become you know this conspiracy dude, uh, and I use that in the air quotes Cause I'm like um again you know we, I'm pretty sure. You know you can get into the whole history of you and where that phrase was coined that you know. As far as the Warren report, CIA and JFK?

Speaker 1:

Absolutely, bro.

Speaker 2:

The guy who, spearheaded that report was fired by JFK a couple months prior. It's crazy, right? We're the crazy ones for asking questions. Yeah, I know, I just don't blindly follow or believe I just ask questions. Man, it's okay, and if it's truthful it should be able to hold up.

Speaker 1:

I made a mistake when I was about 19 years old. I don't know what I was doing, I was probably not doing anything good, I was probably depressed and I boiled down 30 caps of mushrooms because down here in Georgia you got all these cow pastures and you know, back in the day you would just you'd have a spotter and then you'd go out and you'd pick as many damn shrimps as you can until the farmer came out with a shotgun and then, you know, the spotter would say hey, and then boom, you head to the car, boom, head to the car. But I made a stupid decision of boiling down 30 caps in some Kool-Aid and drank the whole damn big cup full and I had the most intense experience, six-hour experience of my life, and I think it changed my life and showed me a lot of things about things. So that was. You know, I've always been kind of never trusted big pharma, never trusted. I mean a lot of things, bro. It took me a minute to get back to normal after that.

Speaker 2:

It was weird, it was wild yeah, it's crazy, but at the same time it's almost like oh, is it?

Speaker 1:

I mean, I don't know man, it's a testimony, because god uses you. I mean, you have to do those things to be able to sit here. What, 30 years later, to be able to say that?

Speaker 2:

Well, that's what it is. I don't know if you're like me, but the biggest lessons in my life come through pain.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, absolutely Humility, and I said this today and I was listening to a podcast of Frank Shelton today called Humility and humility is from God. Pride is of the devil. It's always pride that kicks you in the rear end. Humility is a grand thing, it's an amazing thing. I mean, think what Jesus Christ did. It's an amazing thing. I mean, think what Jesus Christ did no-transcript, and you can't I mean people can't even fathom that. But that's another story. But tell me a little bit more about yourself, bro.

Speaker 2:

So you know, the main reason I hit you up and said maybe you'd be interested in the story is it's very God-related. Let's do it. I think he puts us in places where he needs us at certain times. Right, we can get into all kinds of different stories. The long and short of this one was that we me and my wife had two miscarriages before my daughter and two after. Wow, so after the fourth one, they send us up to a doctor, an in vitro doctor.

Speaker 2:

During COVID, me and Angelina were waiting in the car for my wife. She's going in, getting everything checked out. All her numbers look great, the doctor. There was kind of upset that they even sent her. They said sadly, unfortunately, this is kind of what happens, it's a part of it. And she talked to the receptionist for another five, ten minutes before she headed out. She's a little social butterfly and gets along with everybody, she's a sweetheart. And when she came out she said listen. The doctor said our numbers look great. The plan was for me to go in and talk to the doctor, but he said if uh, you know, if you want, you don't have to. And I said, all right, well, you know, we've been in here for an hour already, so let's get out of here, you know.

Speaker 2:

So we pull out on the way home. We're out in the county now Suburbs, I guess you would call it on a six lane highway. We I don't know how long it was, maybe five, 10 minutes later we pull up to a stoplight, a red light, and my wife like just shouts at me I was driving. She said that just happened. That just happened. I said what did. At me I was driving. She said that just happened. That just happened. I said what did. And across the way, diagonally, across across the intersection, is a minivan that's on fire and she's like you got to get over there. You know, being the fireman, I'm like, all right, yeah, I'll get it. And and then I was about to jump out of the car without being in park and she's like put it in park, you idiot. So we started laughing. I'm all right, all right, put it in park.

Speaker 2:

I'm dressed in a t-shirt, um, shorts and sandals. As I'm jogging over, um, you know, and I hear the, the lady that was driving, lorna, um, she shouts out my baby, my baby, my baby's still in the car. So you know, now you're kicking the high gear. So this, this is uh, another bystander was on scene and the guy names his name's leo and lorna run to the back as they're as they're already dumping out two of lorna's other kids uh, little georgie, he wound up getting like stitches in his chin. And, uh, another little girl's name, it's escaping me at the time. They run around the back. They don't even know I'm on scene.

Speaker 2:

Yet I run over, I check the doors on that side, on driver's side, they're locked, engine compartment's on fire. I just, you know, run around the side, the passenger side. I checked the back. The rear is locked but the passenger front is open. So I just jumped in the car, not taking in high heat. There's visibility, a little bit of smoke, airbags deployed, maybe a little glass shattered, whatever I knew. The steering column was intact. There's no magnesium, no high heat For a fire department rescue. It's not that cool, if that makes sense. I mean, I kind of knew like I had time to operate.

Speaker 2:

I look in the back seat and there's this little little little girl back there, jemma, who's staring at me and like she's not even crying. And as I go to grab her they start smashing windows because, you know, they didn't know I was even on scene and I'm like I got her. I got her, you know, stop, stop. So I was able to, you know, take her out of her seat belt. She starts crying during that time because of the windows and everything else. And I hand her off to the side of the road to her mom. So that's lorna. Lorna was lorna. The passenger side was open because lorna's mom was in the front seat and got busted up ribs and was on the side of the road. So we hand off. You know I hand the baby off to, uh, lorna. You know we're hugging, we're high fiving. Uh, you know two other. You know two other white kids, little white kids, like high school age, working at a car wash, come out with fire extinguishers and I'm like, yeah, give me, give me. Now I get it, you know. And because it's six highway, you know a lot of chaos going on, whatever. But I kind of just knew what to do Took the extinguishers. You know two extinguishers later extinguished the fire. You know we're hugging, we're high fiving, and you know the guy Leo's, you know, leaving.

Speaker 2:

I stayed with Lorna, exchanged numbers and made sure like they got in the ambulance and got all checked out and you know, the county fireman come out and, you know, assess the scene and the ambulance eventually gets there. So when that guy, leo, left, my wife and my daughter were on the side of the road still and they were obviously a little distressed and a little worried. And the guy said, oh, do you, are you okay? Were you guys involved in the accident? And he said, no, that's my husband over there. And he was, like you know, it was pretty emotional. So it was pretty, like you know, raw emotions, and mom thought she was going to lose her daughter that day.

Speaker 2:

So it was pretty intense, you know, and he said, wow, that was, you know, it was cool and, like, all of us did what we had to do that day. You know, that's what I think. It was just a bit like a team effort thing, um, and he said, you know, to my wife oh, do you know the mcguires and my wife's, like I, I wouldn't know, I have no idea, you know, because of you know where I work at and I get back in the car and my, my wife, the first thing I said is did you see that? I do. You know, we just rescued a little girl, little one-year-old girl, and my wife said, no, you idiot, all I seen was you in the trunk putting the fire out.

Speaker 2:

I thought the car was going to blow up, you know, and that's kind of like the perception of the public, I guess from watching too many denzel washington movies. Right, yeah, it's going to blow up. So I'm like, no, we were laughing. Emotions were high, you know. I was like all fired up. It was pretty exciting. And she said do you know the Maguires? I said, well, yeah, you know, john's the chief at my station, you know, and before I even maybe get five more minutes down the road, john's calling me because that guy, leo, called John and you know he what happened. And like any good fireman story I started off with, there was you know he what happened in, like any good fireman story I started off with there was, you know there was fire to the right of me, fire to the left, messing around and having fun and we're laughing, and just you know, tell him what happened.

Speaker 2:

And then he tells my captain at the time, mike Conroy, about it, and Mike Conroy puts me in for an award and I wound up winning. I won this award in 2020. Me in for an award, and, and I wound up winning. I won this award in 2020. And, uh, you know what happened that day.

Speaker 2:

Right is four white dudes stopped on a six lane highway to help this black family. You know, from whatever was going on right and and I'll tell you exactly why I say it the way I say it and how I tell people all the time is that when you know I got recognized, you know you could take me out of the award. I don't. I just think that this is who we are at the core of this. You know, they start interviewing me and asking me questions Channel, channel six, row House magazine around here, local newspaper, nothing crazy, whatever. You know, it's just like. You know, it was really like a feel-good story, but nobody would report the story as I was telling it Right, and they said you know, and I said, because here's the thing I said you want to know the day that this happened, that four white dudes stopped to help this black family on a six-lane highway.

Speaker 2:

I said it was one day after the news of George Floyd was announced. I said what we did that day wasn't special. I said this is who we are. This is America, this is the America I'm part of. I said you turn your. You turn your TV off and you know my everyday interactions. 99% of the time are happy and positive.

Speaker 2:

You know, and what broke my heart is how hateful the world got after that and I kind of went into this shell where I'm like dude, like we're being manipulated, we're being lied to and it's funny because I I ran into propaganda bro is that simple.

Speaker 2:

Again, I was a kid that didn't question anything. I got all my shots, I did everything. I didn't know how much it affected us. And in the summer that year I run into, uh, my buddy, ravi, uh, indian, indian dude down the shore and I can say this girl, danielle, who's sober, from my old neighborhood, who looks super liberal, and I like them, and the tensions are high at the time. So so I'm not bringing anything up because I just enjoy their company.

Speaker 2:

Whatever they're the ones that start pointing me in the direction of like, yeah, did you ever check out this, this documentary, or read this book, or look into the? You know? And the stuff they, they put me on towards was like out of shadows, everything's the rich man's trick. You know the creatures, the Jekyll Island, that book about how the Federal Reserve was started, and I'm like and I always tell people it's some of the craziest, wildest stuff I've ever read and watched, but it's the only thing that started making any sense to me and I started trying to shout from the rooftop saying, yeah, these people are duping us.

Speaker 1:

Well, you feel it in your heart, and that's what I tell people.

Speaker 2:

I said I'm like dude, I'm telling you I had a conviction.

Speaker 1:

I had a conviction in my heart.

Speaker 2:

Like this. This is off, dude, this is off. You know, and I was the dude that was telling my buddies don't get vaccinated, don't get your kids vaccinated. I said if anything, hold off, ask questions. The mask on the face and all that kind of stuff. I just questioned all of it. It just didn't add up and that's what I said.

Speaker 2:

I said do you want to know how fear and conformity work? So we got a thing down here in Philly called Kensington Ave and it's pretty much like it looks like a third wall country, you know from drugs, and it's rampant. And if you ever seen the wire the HBO series is a wire I had a place called Amsterdam where they were allowed to do it. It's almost like that. And that's what I said. I said you want to know how fear and conformity work? I said there's people on Kensington Ave shooting dope on their neck in their neck with a mask on their face. I said that makes sense to me. Right, you know? And if this thing was as deadly as they're saying, we're picking these kind of people up in trash trucks.

Speaker 1:

Well, first of all, fear is nothing more than false evidence appearing real. That's fear.

Speaker 2:

That's all. Fear is man. I'm with you A thousand percent, you know. And the crazy part of it all right is after the recognition there's an award, a little ceremony and have the family at my house that night, and I had the lady Lorna- and her little girl, Gemma, and brother and sister and the mom out for pizza.

Speaker 2:

So they come up and we take a picture with me, my wife and my daughter. And then it's funny when me and my wife start looking at the pictures months later we put the timeline together that my son, Shawnee, was already in my wife's womb at the time of the picture.

Speaker 1:

That's awesome man.

Speaker 2:

We didn't even need to be there that day.

Speaker 1:

That is awesome, yeah, and I't even need to be there that day.

Speaker 2:

That is awesome. Yeah, and I said, it's just like there's too many variables. You know people can call it coincidental. It's just like I just believe coincidences are God related. He just kind of puts you at a place where he needs you.

Speaker 1:

Especially when coincidence I don't believe in coincidences, but when they start mathematically making sense it's like it's crazy, right? Are you kidding me? I mean, I'm a math guy, so it's like huh.

Speaker 2:

There's just too many variables that go into all that man.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I know man, it's crazy.

Speaker 2:

The only way I can explain it is it's God-related.

Speaker 1:

Yep, it is always God-related, especially if you have the spirit of God in you. I mean, I try to. I was selling a car yesterday. In fact, I went back to selling cars, which I hadn't done in four years, but I never sold cars. Well, I sold cars the first three years of my career, which was 98, 99, 2000, or, yeah, something around there. But I just went back to selling cars after being retired for four years to play music and I went back and the only there's a. There's a story behind it. You'll have to listen to the, to the podcast about it.

Speaker 2:

But I don't want to.

Speaker 1:

I don't want to spend too much time here, but I'm telling you I would not drive an hour past 30 major dealerships like Ford, Toyota, Chevy, to a used car dealership if I didn't feel revival was going on at that used car dealership. There was a reason it was. Yeah, you'll have to listen to the podcast. I don't want to tell us.

Speaker 2:

Which episode is it?

Speaker 1:

I'll, uh, I'll send you the link.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, let me know, I absolutely, absolutely will, and this is the stuff that I enjoy more now because I was a sports guy. I was a sports guy my whole life, Love sports. I think sports is supposed to be about, you know, signing up, honoring, the commitment making friends Absolutely.

Speaker 1:

It's a team effort.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but you know again, with everything in 2020 going on, it's like you know this is supposed to be about, like you know, talking some trash Dallas versus Philadelphia, blah, blah blah, and it became something that like I was down with.

Speaker 1:

Oh, congrats, by the way.

Speaker 2:

Yeah right.

Speaker 1:

I'm glad my I'm glad my georgia bulldogs can help you out.

Speaker 2:

I'm glad my georgia dogs y'all got some bad defense that's the first football game I've watched end to end all year, like I.

Speaker 1:

I need to me too, same same. I don't care, except for Georgia. I watched the.

Speaker 2:

Oaks yeah, I went to rehab down in Florida so I know how rampant it is with college football down south.

Speaker 1:

Which is? I mean it's turned into like what I say now is NFL is now the WWF or the NWA or WCW or whatever. It's all scripted, and then college football is now the NFL Because now these motherfuckers they're getting paid more than these fucking NFL people.

Speaker 2:

NFL.

Speaker 1:

I hate it because it's such a good tradition. But I mean it's all Roman, I mean it's all bread and circus. You know that, so you can't exactly.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, exactly, that's where I just lost love for it. It's uh, yeah, absolutely don't have any interest, you know, I mean, and I know what's going on, but I just kind of was like I'm good man, like I was a dude that was in fantasy football leagues and watching what's going on.

Speaker 1:

I was the same same way, brother. I mean you talk soccer, but down in the South back in the 70s and 80s it was the trifecta. It was basketball, football, baseball, and it was mainly baseball down South and my high school had three out of four Georgia State Championship rings.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's, yeah, listen, yeah, it's crazy, bro. We were always playing, we were always outside, we were always playing, oh yeah.

Speaker 1:

And now my kids. It's funny because my son he does landscaping for a living. He makes like $25 an hour, which is a big deal down here for a 24-year-old, and he's really good at what he does because his work ethic. But he grew up like I gave him all the technology. He was born in 2000,. So just imagine that the first iPhone came out in 2006. I mean, first iPhone came out in 2006. So just imagine his life. I mean, first iPhone came out in 2006. So just imagine his life. That's all he's known is video games and damn phones and shit, because I didn't know no better man, I just wanted my kids to have shit. I didn't have All the coolest, all the newest shit. I didn't know they were being programmed, but he turned out. It was rough in high school with him but he turned out great and he's a godly. He's turned into a godly man, which is an amazing thing.

Speaker 2:

That's great man. Yeah, it's great stuff, and that's the thing you know. I think we're headed to where we were headed because of a couple of things, and two of them are, you know, political correctness, and we fell asleep at the wheel and just the truth man.

Speaker 1:

There's so many lies out there. There's so many cover-ups. Our whole society is based on lies and they screwed up with the Internet Okay, they censored it as much as they could the algorithms, other everything but we hijacked it and we, we, we hijacked it and they're like. I saw a post today that said a cult isn't a 100 million people 77 million, yeah, 77. You know what I'm talking about. What did?

Speaker 2:

it say Cold is like a couple hundred people with purple hair. Yeah, I see.

Speaker 1:

Some pronouns.

Speaker 2:

The memes are the best.

Speaker 1:

There's so much truth, man, and that's the thing. They post these articles. But what? What's our? What's an article? It's an opinion piece from an individual.

Speaker 1:

If you do the research and they do it senseless, it's like. It's like they post it and they believe it, and I'm like I click on the author, I go down, I'm like, oh well, he's a damn Democrat, he's a Trump hater. I mean, all you got to do is it's not that hard. It really isn't. But people are lazy, and that's the thing is, with their cult, with their beliefs, they have to show it to you. Cult with their beliefs, they have to show it to you. So you, you, that's your form of uh saying okay, you know that's, that's the thing.

Speaker 2:

And and that that that meme you know what it was, it was 77 million is in a cult. That's a revolution, yeah no doubt. Yep, and that's what no doubt. Yep, and that's what you know nowadays. We got, you know, the Joe Rogans, the Candace Owens and all these people, tucker Carlson, all these people that are just having honest conversations.

Speaker 1:

And even, like Joe Rogan, even Theo Vaughn, bro, even Theo Vaughn, yes.

Speaker 2:

And all they're doing is having honest conversations with all kinds of different people and they're classified as far right wing.

Speaker 1:

Right, yeah, oh, trust me, I know yeah.

Speaker 2:

It's just, it's um and again. That's why, like a lot of times, even on Facebook, um, people from my end, they get blocked, they get hidden, Um, and it's nothing personal, but it's nothing personal. But my thing is, you don't want a conversation. You want me to feel and think how you do, based off of your feelings and emotions, and I'm not to die because I've been treating people fair my whole life.

Speaker 1:

I have a hard time blocking people because I just pray that one day they'll just see a post and it might plant a seed. You know what I'm saying. They might come to Christ. You never know, bro, you never know.

Speaker 2:

And you know again, I appreciate you even hearing the story out dude Like I just believe that.

Speaker 1:

Oh no, that's amazing, brother and I, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2:

We just, you know, linked up for a reason God was there.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, god was there that night, that's all it is, there is no other.

Speaker 2:

We're friends with that family to this day, man, and they're just beautiful people. And listen, when that happened, too, you got to remember like I didn't look at it like a black family. It was like it's a human. There's a little kid in need and it's like, okay, let's go get her. It's not like, yeah, who'd you vote for? You vaccinated? You're wearing a mask. It's like like, oh, okay, there was no thought and that's what I said like take me out of the story. I said this is, this is who we are as americans. Like you know what I mean.

Speaker 1:

Like we are each other's keeper right and god puts the right people in the right place at the right time to do his work, so that that story is shown for the glory of God, and only the glory of God. We are just vessels, and that is an amazing story and an amazing testimony.

Speaker 2:

Amen to that man and that's what reminded me when we're talking about sports. Amen to that man and that's what reminded me when we were talking about sports. And if you want to talk about, like, I was at my lowest, not at my lowest, but it was around the time that it was the final time that I, you know, got high again and you know, sadly, I upgraded to, you know, from Percocets to Oxys goes to heroin. Yeah, sniffing you, sniffing bags of dope.

Speaker 1:

A lot of people don't recover from that brother. Yeah, well, that's what I tell.

Speaker 2:

When I get to speak to high school kids, and that's my story and what I tell them is like I'm not telling you to go out and try a $10 bag of dope, but I had a harder time kicking Oxycontin and percocets and it's because when you were paying for that pure synthetic medicine, you were getting it versus a bag of whatever chopped up however many different times, right, whatever, right, and that's what I said. It's just like. My thing is like don't downplay what you're putting in your body. Everyone's just a load of work, right? It's just like it's all the same shit. It's all the same. You know that that opiate substance is is just a killer, and it's through my soul hell they.

Speaker 1:

They did a damn documentary on oxycontin and the documentary said that you had to, you had to chemically be well, I think that was to get people to think to trade one drug for another, like methadone and uh and suboxone and that sort of thing yeah, we can talk about that all day.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's like putting the handcuffs on yourself right, exactly, and that's, that's, um.

Speaker 1:

I think that is why that documentary came out, because so many people are already hooked. So now, now they're going to send out propaganda saying, oh, the only way you can get off of this drug without dying is to get on another drug. Yeah, that's idiocracy in itself. It really is.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but that's who it is. It's just placing the handcuffs on yourself. You gave up on you, we gave up on you. Your family gave up on you, just gave up on you. Your family gave up on you. Just do this. Show up in this little four-block radius for the rest of your life. Again, it's another prison.

Speaker 1:

Yep and get on disability for the rest of your life. Yeah, that's where it leads to Trickle-down economics. Baby.

Speaker 2:

It's not government assistance, it's government dependency, right exactly. That's what I said, when you sign up for that stuff at an early age, what happens is you have no idea what you're capable of even doing, and you have no idea how high you can fly, man, because you settled your whole life.

Speaker 1:

Right, you're absolutely correct, man. People don't have a clue. The power as a human being that God gave them I mean, it says it all in the Bible Like you can cast out demons, you can do, you can move, that you can be like Jesus. But we are so inundated in this world that we don't know that frequency level yet. But I think it's coming. It may not be in our generation, but I think it's coming. These kids are pretty amazing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they were amazing. My hopes and prayers, man, my hopes and prayers during this time has always been the truth to come out and that there was no civil war.

Speaker 1:

That's all we got is prayer, man. I heard a guy today. I mean hell, they got a whole month where a guy dressed up in tutu and shit right, they got a whole month for that. It's time for Christians. Well, I'm not even going to say Christians, I'm going to say it's time for Christ followers to come out to Claude and flash like they flash. Pray loud, pray openly, pray for everybody and everything. And it's time for revival. It really is time for revival in this country, man. It really is. Just tell them.

Speaker 2:

And that's what I always tell people too, even if you're not biblical. I said what was the devil's greatest trick? Convincing the world he didn't exist.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

And I said what else was the devil, both male and female? I said where are we at with our kids today? What are we doing? Yep you know, and I, I will 100, always unapologetically speak up for my kids oh, and for your kids you have to. I don't, I don't care, I don't care if I hurt your feelings, I don't care if you don't like me, and that's not to go around saying I act like a butthead on a daily basis. It's just like I'm having these honest conversations, right?

Speaker 1:

Well, like I said, it's not to hurt your feelings. Humility is of God.

Speaker 2:

That's it, dude Yep. And then the other story. A couple stories I want to share, but one of the things you're going to look out for in August is a guy named Charlie Strange. His son, Michael Strange, was killed in Extortion 17. He has a documentary coming out about you can't burn the truth.

Speaker 2:

Wow I like the title already yeah, great, great dude, unbelievable human being. I can maybe even link you two up if you're interested in that. He's a. He's a great dude to talk to, absolutely um and um, you know, and it's funny. Like you know, sports was always about life lessons.

Speaker 2:

So when I was at like my last time, um, I was under lock and key for like eight, nine days, withdrawing and my niece was born, uh, up at the hospital in the city on 5, 17 and I didn't have any money. Uh, this is what's working too, like steady job, and you know how everything goes to that. Uh, the next drug, um, I wound up hocking my high school ring at the jeweler's row down there, right, right and uh, and you know there's a lot of sentimental value to that and um, just like you know one of the things I did and again you want to talk about coincidences uh, being god related, I get involved with coaching after I got sober and I think it's like maybe my second or third, fourth year being sober, second year coaching, um, the team that I was coaching winds up winning, like you know, the league around here. It's like maybe my second or third, fourth year being sober, second year, coaching the team that I was coaching winds up winning. Like you know, the league around here it's called the Catholic League Right, they win the championship.

Speaker 2:

And I didn't even know that, like you know, I was a part of the team, you know, and they got me a ring, a high school ring, you know, and that's the kind of stuff that, like, where I'm like man, you know. And that's the kind of stuff that, like, where I'm like man, like god. For me, when it's coincidental, it's god, let me know that I'm on the right path, I'm doing the right thing. Oh yeah, yep, it's all it comes down to man. And uh, you know, I'm cool with just being a vessel and, like you know, the biggest title that all of us can earn out there is to be that of a servant.

Speaker 1:

Yep, and God's elevated in numbers. I mean, don't get it twisted Yep. So you're absolutely correct, my man. Do you have anything else you want to tell our listeners while you're on the cast? The faith cast.

Speaker 2:

I don't, man. It's just I love what you're doing, I appreciate what you're doing. I thank you for speaking openly and honestly on this podcast, on Facebook or whatever it is, and not shying away from the truth, and it makes people like me, and I'm sure a lot of other people, realize yeah, you're not losing your mind, you're not crazy. The world we just were living in for a while was, you know, bizarro world.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's amazing, the people you meet on this journey, the food for thought podcast. I want to, I want to. I want to pray for Sean real quick, before we leave. I'm a praying man, I'm a, I'm a Baptist, so we pray out loud. So we're going, we're going to pray for you real quick, sean. Dear Heavenly Father, we come to you today. I want to especially pray for this guest that I've had on my podcast, sean Dugan. He's got two beautiful little kids, lord. I pray that he give them the spirit he teaches them of you, lord, the way you want him to. Lord, I pray that his day today is amazing, his day tomorrow is amazing and I want to pray a shield of safety around him, as he is a public server, lord, for you, a firefighter. Lord, we know you were there that day. We appreciate you, we honor you. We know you're always going to be over him as long as he looks at you first. Lord, we love you. Lord, we pray. It's in Jesus' name we pray, amen.

Speaker 2:

Amen.

Speaker 1:

All right brother.

Speaker 2:

Thank you so much, brother. You have a great night dude, and look forward to chatting. All right, brother. Thank you so much, brother. You have a great night dude and, you know, look forward to chatting.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely, my friend. We'll do it again soon.

Speaker 2:

Thank you for the food for thought, my brother.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, love you, brother. All right, love you, Peace. God bless you. All right bye. This episode is brought to you by S4 Construction Services out of Lincolns, Georgia. You want your roof done right. You want your roof replacements done right. You want your metal and vinyl and hardy siding done right. Patio covers, pole barns, wooden chain link fences. Call S4 Construction Services now at 706-834-0865. That's 706-834-0865. Hey guys, this is B-Rob here. Just wanted to let you know that the podcast is also sponsored by my entertainment company called B-Rob Music. You can visit the website at wwwberobmusiccom. That's B-E-R-O-B music dot com. You can find the podcast there. You can even email me, text me and if you feel led to give because we don't have many sponsors yet, if God's put it on your heart, you can digitally tip me on the website as well. Thank you, guys. God bless, have a great day.

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